Drones Meeting: Saturday, November 24, 2007
We talked about: The Communist threat in the 50's. Was McCarthy right? The federal vision controversy within Presbyterianism.
posted by Mark @ 11:20 AM
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Saturday, November 24, 2007
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5 Comments:
What sort of outcome does the Grandrone predict for the "Federal Vision" controversy?
I'm not sure that actual aspect ever came up. I certainly won't presume to speak for Evan. I'll let him know of your question. But is your psyche ready for the answer? Is the world ready?
Jeff,
My oracular powers are often put to the test. Being stoned outside the city gates does give me pause so let me offer this as an opinion rather than prophesy.
I think that the tide in the Presby world is heavily against the FV (PCA GA vote of 95% against, let alone the smaller conservative groups like the OPC)and in consequence, the decision after investigation of the Louisiana Presbytery will go against the supporters of Steve Wilkins who will then, before or after having his own views retried, will leave the PCA for the CREC as will a number of other pastors. Few will recant, if any, because recanting is something Anglicans will do but not Presbyterians. Leithart will face a less strident circumstance but may be forced to decide.
When the dust settles the CREC will be larger and the PCA smaller. While this is a growth of some sort for the CREC the cost is high. The donnybrook that precedes it will make it Pyrrhic victory. The source of virtually all "evangelism" to the FV has been the Reformed world and that world will raise the walls against the FV and they will not have the access and market of that world. This may cause a plateau in growth to exist in the FV circles and they will have to function with the difficult task of getting along with each other for they are by no means a lock step bunch. It is easy to find common unity while the enemy is at the gates but when the war is over, one discovers which of your fellow travelers were allies and which were only co-belligerents.
Jeff,
Well, there you have it. If you'd like to add your two cents worth on the subject, from a slightly different perspective I assume, feel free.
Mark and Evan,
Adding my two cents on a subject like this is probably more effectively done face to face, rather than in the format of the Drones' blog.
Actually, it's easier for me to say what I think of the Federal Vision and why I support this or that disputed point, than to make predictions about where this will go. I think, however, that the Reformed/Presbyterian movement in North America is facing an identity crisis. Some will end up becoming much more like Baptists (which is where the PCA seems to be headed), some will push forward in an Anglican direction, and a third group will hold the middle course, more in line with the original theology of John Calvin. FV types will tend to fall into the latter two camps.
I can't say for sure which of these three groups will end up as the paradigmatic Reformed Presbyterians of the future, but I'm holding out hope for the third group.
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